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HERE AND THERE: Of marriage and ownership

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Two weeks ago during an interview I was asked a question that keeps recurring with numbing regularity now that I am spending more time at home in Nigeria. “Why do you insist on not answering your husband’s name?”

The response that zings around my head immediately is; why are you asking a question you have already answered? Of course I keep this retort to myself. It is not a polite response to give to what many would consider a perfectly sensible inquiry.

But my answer from my point of view is as simple as the question. The name is his. I know that I am married to him (how can I not?). He knows that I am married to him (this I make sure of). His family knows that I am married to him (the evidence is clear to see). But I also know that he is married to me, and I know that I did not fall out of a tree! There is nothing sacrosanct about a woman taking on her husband’s name once she marries.

In fact in order to change her name, she must follow procedures laid down by statute. Name changing after marriage is not a law, it is essentially a convention, drawn from a particular culture and widely practiced in countries that have certain historical links. In a range of places from Iran to Korea, Malaysia to Iceland and in countries like Senegal women do not automatically change their names at marriage, the common practice is for them to keep their birth names. In Russia a couple will decide which of their two names they will use.

A tradition of Hispanic countries will have the wife using her surname as a middle name along with that of her husband. Their children will bear the mother‘s maiden name and the father’s name as their last name. On marriage the daughter will like her mother did , drop her mother ‘s surname and replace it with her father’s as her middle name while adding her new husband ‘s last name. Pablo Ruiz Picasso, is known by his mother‘s surname. In Iceland they say a woman does not stop being the daughter of her family just because she got married.

A few years ago in Lagos the issue came up of a non Lagos indigene, female, married to a Lagosian, who wanted to run for political office and that was when people remembered that she had a different maiden name. One can imagine the same thing occurring in any other corner of the country when the daughter of the soil comes back bearing a name from “outside” but wants to contest for office in the home of her “parents”.

In many countries where Islam is practiced and Arabic the language most widely spoken changing names is regarded as a Western convention.

Essentially though the issue of what name to answer after marriage by either partner is becoming more and more widely seen as a matter of individual choice and one driven by the recognition of equality between the sexes and the right to free will. Many women still opt to change their names and that is their prerogative.

But what really grates when it comes to this is the attitude here. I do not direct this issue to women because when it comes to marriage in Nigeria, the terrain is largely political. It has its rules, rituals, obligations and hierarchies, but also has its different chambers, social and personal. We do tend to focus on the social.

Ask a Nigerian man to change his name and he will consider it an insult of the highest order. This means that women are considered fair game, mothers, sisters, daughters, all.

The first retort when a woman protests is: Why don’t you want people to know you are married? But that is really a side bar. The people for whom that knowledge is most important are the ones who are in it. Are you married? Yes.

Move on. Or not...

When Fela Anikulapo Kuti was released from prison, following Dele Olojede’s story in Newswatch, on Justice ‘I don beg me’ Okoro-Idogu, he gave what I consider a seminal interview to the Sunday Concord. In this interview Fela declared that any man who keeps a woman in his house and thinks that because of this he now owns her, is a fool. Few Nigerian women will make the mistake of instinctively thinking that they, own a man, even if they take his name. The only ownership that occurs between people is when they give of themselves, to each other. The rest is just an edifice.

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Posted by Nnamdi on Jun 12 2009

Amma, I think u missed d point on this one. In all ur examples u didn't cite d one from ur culture. What does ur culture say or expect? Are u married to somebody from Iceland or Malaysia etc? BTW, d law is a reflection of a ppls culture and that is d only way a verdict can be perceived as justice. Name change could provide security for u and ur husband in ur marriage and by extension create a happy union-is it a sacrifice u need to make? In 'our' culture, marriage is a rite of passage, a form of 'I have arrived'. We shld be careful how we reference & sometimes take in other cultures. What does ur culture say and expect and I ask d same question everybody is asking'Why haven't u changed ur name?(I must confess I like 'Ogan' though) Now that I remember u(used to read u in d Guardian in my University days-infact u were the model/module for my then girlfriend) am glad u are providing a little diversion from the heart-breaking political news from back home. Let's keep d soothing social? banter going, becos d alternative is grief of an impending demise of a nation.

Posted by Ayo Ogunsola on Jun 12 2009

This is a very thought provoking piece it will generate lots of comments and reaction.It a clear postulation of your convictions and this makes me want to ask "what's your view on gay and lesbian unions"?and is there possibility for the Nigerian society to embrace this concept as is done in lots of developed nations.

Posted by Jeremy Weate on Jun 12 2009

@ Nnamdi - cultures are not static entities. The cultures we have in Nigeria now are very different from a century ago. So any argument from culture, as your comment appears to be, is based on a moving target. What has been largely forgotten by a lot of Yoruba people is that historically, a woman never took on her husband's name. You mention this to many young Yoruba women (and men) and they will hardly believe you. If only had a better grasp of their own culture, and how Christianity in particular has influenced conceptions of marriage and ownership...

Posted by Iheoma OBIBI on Jun 12 2009

Amma, thank you so much for this piece. I have not changed my name at all and have faced the same question so many times that now I do not bother to respond. I have known my husband for so long as a friend first, then as a co-conspirator in this life of marriage and eventually as parents to two wonderful children. As a student I remember doing my dissertation on marriage on bridewealth amongst the igbo of south eastern nigeria and one of the things I learnt it that the influence of christainity on our cultural values can never be under estimated. Why should my name change? What does changing my name say for the relationshup between husband and wife? Is it necessary? The sudo-christain values that have crept into our cultural norms need to be addressed at some point. We have a whole group of younng women going bananas with fasting and praying as they "wait" for the man that will give them permission to bear his name. Just to depressing to think about. As for the school my children attend, they have resolved to call me "mama then name of child". We are a small minority. Yes, I love my name.

Posted by Chxta on Jun 12 2009

for Nnamdi, as far as I know, in old Igbo cultures, women didn't change their names upon marriage. The simply became nwuye, and in most cases were taken back to be buried among their own people when they died.

Posted by Lesley Agams on Jun 12 2009

Contemporary western/ Judeo-Christian defined marriage is a flawed institution and the associations with it are difficult to overcome in the extreme. Our ultra conservative society insists on accepting the western ethos as 'cultural' (consider Mrs. Ekaette saying going naked is un-African and against our cultural values.)We fight ignorance, a terrible cancerous ignorance. I admire you, Amma and Iheoma, your courage. I gave up on marriage altogether rather than have to live with the constant stress of having to explain myself, justify my beliefs, or try to 'redefine' marriage, hard to do even with a supportive mate, impossible with a chavinist pig for a 'husband'. And while we are on the subject why do our children bear their fathers name? Inheritance maybe? If there was anything to inherit on my side of the family I would have insisted my sons take my name, made them heirs in my 'kingdom'. I guess there are strong intersections between 'religion' and 'wealth'. Well done sistahs. More love and power to you both.

Posted by Adekunle Samuel Owolabi on Jun 12 2009

I agree with Amma

Posted by Eba on Jun 13 2009

In between the line, Ms Amma Ogan almost asked the question What is marriage? Why was it created? What are the cultural symbols of marriage? Marriage and all its symbols are outward shows of a strictly private interaction. I think it is a prison humans created to curtail their freedom. That said there are two examples I will like to add and both because of their boldness. There is one woman in Nigeria who not only uses the name of one husband but added the name of the second one when she divorced the first. Yes a woman of double portions. The other that I will like to share is a British man (Jeremy Weate's country man-:) who added his wife name to his as a sign of sacrifice and to experience the pain of I who is known and called XyZ now wishes to be called zYx.....why do women have to go through this? I wish you all in the prison happy service time or is it serving time?

Posted by Ehijie Edoro on Jun 13 2009

I am all too impressed with the level of discernment that are expressed in the comments above. Nnamdi, what is your definition of "your culture." The Nigeria you see today is not the same Nigeria that once was. It has changed, and will continue to change. Please, do not be locked in the ways of your fathers. It is best to be pragmatic, because it is within pragmatism that humans are able to express flexibility, which is the key to problem solving. The fact that it is a cultural norm for some people to circumcise their daughter does not mean it is right, or does not mean it is a good practice.

Posted by Kubayashi on Jun 13 2009

@ All... Nice discussions, but where have we thrown individual freedom to choose. I bet some ladies dont 'really' mind being known by their husbands name.. I believe we should let the choice be theirs. I dont care whatever name she wants to bear, however, I would love to see her go by my family name if she doesnt mind... i think the most important thing is what value a couple has agreed (internally though) to bring into the union that exists between them. I gladly wash the dishes most of the time in the kitchen, yet I still believe in the culture of a woman needs to be obedient in respect of her husband...

Posted by Henry Witte on Jun 13 2009

Make all of una go find work do!!! This whole thing is so irrelevant. What a waste.

Posted by George Uriesi on Jun 13 2009

Clap, clap, clap Amma! It's refreshing to see a Nigerian woman courageously challenge ingrained societal convention publicly! We must learn to live and let live in our society. The sooner we all accept the reality that everyone doesn't have to live their lives in accordance with our own belief systems, the sooner our society will be released from the suffocating grip of pervasive limiting beliefs and fallacious prejudices!

Posted by Joe Ugwu on Jun 13 2009

Well... People knew you as Amma Ogan but later as Amma Olojede. So what is wrong with Mrs Amma Ogan-Olojede? I think Amma Ogan sounds better since the latter is a 'mouthful'. @ Nnamdi, make una mind una biz... Were you born in 1920? O4kasibe man!

Posted by Bella Noire on Jun 14 2009

I was MC at a relative's wedding and got a whisper in my ear that the sister of the bride was giving the vote of thanks and was nowhere to be found and could I announce that she come to the mic. I asked the whisperer what her name was and he gave me a first name. What's her surname, I asked. He shrugged and said the bride's maiden name. I went ahead to announce the name he'd told me and was rewarded by an evil look from a woman who spun around as soon as the announcement was made. She was the bride's sister. She promptly came to the mic and told everyone that that was no longer her name because "I am a married woman now." Okay.... Anyhow, later, I said to her, sorry about referring to you by your maiden name and she said not to worry, that she just wanted her enemies to know that she was married...

Posted by sylvia on Jun 15 2009

I will go as far as saying we should only bear our own names. Yes. I will change my name to Sylvia Sylvia. First of all, when I was born, a man's surname was given to me, my father's. Then, when I get married, another man's surname which is also his own father's surname(another man again, haba!)is given to me. Wetin? Na only una get surnames? Why must I bear the name of a man? I want my own name and if I can't have that, then I rather bear the name of another woman. Not her father's, but her own name. My future daughter's name could be Amma Sylvia.

Posted by Roxy Uba on Jun 15 2009

When a governmental agency requires you to have a letter of consent from your husband before you apply for an international passport, we know what we're working with here. And to even hear the defense of it sef...... I despise it when people blindly say "oh it's our culture....blah blah blah" like Jeremy and Chxta mentioned, for many of us, our "culture" actually did not contain a lot of the stuffiness and discrimination that exists today. I just wish people would pick up a book and READ. Find things out yourself rather than taking things blindly and regurgitating it like a robot without a mind to think! As for me, my name is and will always be Roxy Uba. Whether I marry or no marry.

Posted by Omoniyi on Jun 15 2009

Interesting discourse i must say! As for me, I like my name and I intend to keep it after marriage. I've always known that in my culture, women keep their names after marriage; Oya iyawo Sango, is the extent to which the husband is acknowledged not a Mrs. Sango, where would this leave Sango's mum? A lady who drops her middle name and adds her husband's name and one who answers her husband's surname are both doing it as a matter of choice i believe.

Posted by Ify Uraih on Jun 15 2009

Okay Amma, you can afford to say so. But lets take a census on how many single girls want to keep their maiden names.

Posted by Tade Ipadeola on Jun 15 2009

"There is nothing sacrosanct about a women taking on her husband's name once she marries.?"

Posted by Catwalq on Jun 15 2009

I am intrigued by Kubayashi, who says "yet I still believe in the culture of a woman needs to be obedient in respect of her husband..." why does she need to be "obedient in respect"? can she not be respectful without being obedient?

Posted by Emeka Ofomata on Jun 15 2009

Interesting discourse! Amma has done it again!! I am almost cracking up with the flow of the discourse and positions taken so far. The bottomline is that we have something interesting to talk about rather than dwelling on the impotence and frivolity of our leaders. Nigeria is an interesting country with rich culture and good and articulate people. Sadly we are ruled [not served] by inept and celebrally challenged people. The trend of the discourse and the quality of Amma's writing speaks volume for this our country. Thanks gals and guys....

Posted by Taipan on Jun 15 2009

@ Roxy: some spunk! you are outspoken for my likeness!

Posted by Ralph on Jun 15 2009

I beg to disagree with chxta about women being buried in the own town in old igbo culture, that's only pravalent in the a few Niger-delta ethnicities like the Esans but certainly not the Eastern Igbo. As per the issue of name change its any one's prerogative but for the simple sake of easy lineage identification and generational back-dating its better to change name upon marriage. Again i do not believe that culture is a moving target, while people's approach may be different the basic cultural values remains the same only that westernization and trying to avoid certain things have made people deviate a lot. Lastly its easy to spot pride and fear of the unknownm (divorce etc) in many circumstances where people decide to keep their names upon marriage.

Posted by Ben on Jun 15 2009

All it means in your context is that you are more sentimentally attached to your father than your husband. It is still a man's name in a patriarchal society.

Posted by Chxta on Jun 15 2009

Ralph a little more reading would help. Reference here would be Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart when Okonkwo's mum died. She was taken back to Mbanta to be buried. There his uncle Uchendu asked him a question, why do we take our mothers back to be buried amongst their kinsmen? Chinua was not writing about Esan people...

Posted by Ekhaiyemhe Solomon on Jun 15 2009

"There is nothing wrong about women taking on her husband's name once she marries.?

Posted by femi on Jun 15 2009

@to henry witte. If this is a waste of time. why are u commentimg

Posted by Ade on Jun 15 2009

Amma,you should consider yourself lucky to have married a man who care less about what names you bear. Why do you think it's better for you to retain your father's name which of course your mother adopted.Have you ever considered how your father adopted the name OGAN? Who first started to use it? Suppose your surname was not Ogan but Olojede you would have prefered to bear the latter. Then what's in a name, anyway.

Posted by Ehijie Edoro on Jun 15 2009

Ralph are you from Siberia or somewhere near eastern Europe. Why do you think the Esan People i from the Niger-Delta. My lord some Nigerians are just peerless in their ignorance. Just to set you straight, are not from the Niger Delta.

Posted by Olatunji on Jun 15 2009

I will like my wife to bear my surname, it is a sign of being submissive in all ramifications. Look at these ladies that bear their own names, you will find out they are proud and egoistic. Guess, I'm entitled to my opinion?

Posted by Nnamdi on Jun 15 2009

Wow!BOPD. Ppl,let's get away from this online(intelligentsia) forum and go to d streets of Umuahia, kaduna, sokoto, owerri, calabar etc and ask d single & married women where they stand on this issue. I guess a lot of us know what d answer will be(i.e. culture. Accepted, believed and practiced by a majority).This reminds me of the U.S. perception of the Hijaab(veil) during? the Afghan war. Some Afghan women came on TV and told the American chatter heads they love dressing up like that- 'Our men find it sexy'(Haba).Name change is not and has never been ownership - ask the women who protested in Ekiti recently or d ones who took part in d Aba Riots of 1929 or Mrs.Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti or d Agbala priestess or Ms. Okeke who stood up to the male brute- Arogundade – am sure they have a diff. view. Winnie Mandela did not lose her confidence,importance or independence because she took on her married name. Am yet to see d African woman who does. As for burials, Mrs(nwuye)and culture as moving target - space too short for that long story. At my own peril, I am tempted to surmise that some of the views here may be interspersed with influences by foreign residences, foreign? vacations and alliances that may be weakening our original values. Am I in trouble? Somebody rescue me - Where is Nwuye Olojede?

Posted by Diprieye on Jun 15 2009

Na Ghana or Senegal we dey?

Posted by Segun on Jun 15 2009

The bottom line is that Amma is lucky to have someone like Dele for a husband. How many men commenting here would like to have their wives bear their maiden names. I only know that its only the Ms. ladies that take on their maiden names and this most times is not by choice. How would Amma like to be introduced? Maybe something like this, Amma Ogan, Dele Olojede's wife, to be in sync with what someone said above about Oya, iyawo Sango? Obviously you can't be called Mrs Amma Ogan! Yoruba and many other African languages do not recognize surnames. In Yoruba culture Amma would be Amma omo baba Amma assuming she is the 1st born. In reality this is all about fear of divorce, yes divorce, and pride.

Posted by Ralph on Jun 15 2009

@ Segun, u point is a good one. Now @ Ehigie don't be ridiculous, U quickly forget that Delta and Edo state was the former Bendel state with Benin being the capital. That the Esan's and Bini's now habitate in the current Edo state doesnt make them less a member of the Niger-delta region are moreover they are still part of the South / south. Don't know what u r trying to say or perhaps its ur sarcastic way or arguing ur point. @ Chxta don't base your conclusion from what you read off the the book "Things fall apart". that's just superficial and a novel at that.

Posted by Ralph on Jun 15 2009

@ Ehigie Edoro this may help Dilute ur Sarcasm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_Delta I bet you should discuss the topic @ hand than pick on frivolities cos its just shows plain lack of content.

Posted by Chxta on Jun 15 2009

Ralph, superficial? At no point did I state that Things Fall Apart was my only source. But in any event, it is a novel, true, but one that provides us with an excellent window into how the Igbo people lived before the colonials came. What other sources do you have?

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 16 2009

@Ralph: It IS Igbo culture for a woman to be buried with her own people. I don't know where you're from sha but it is Igbo culture ALL OVER.

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 16 2009

Also, I am single, I am twenty, and when I get married I will bear MY OWN NAME so help me God.

Posted by sylvia on Jun 16 2009

@Ralph: I don't know how it is with "eastern Igbos" but I can at least be sure that with Delta Igbos, the women are buried amongst their people. I am very sure of that because my grandmother was buried amongst her own people,in another village, even though she had lived her whole life in her husband's village.That was just four years ago. My father, who died a year later, was buried in his father's village. Left to me, both of them would have been buried side by side. I still do not understand what the whole point was. Even after death, people are still trying to prove a point. Ridiculous, in my own opinion.

Posted by Habu on Jun 16 2009

Qoute: Ask a Nigerian man to change his name and he will consider it an insult of the highest order. This means that women are considered fair game, mothers, sisters, daughters, all. Culture in Reverse: Is just like saying every woman should begin to marry their sweethearts and eventually relocation them to their respective father's compounds. I am sure any sane Nigerian or African father would not want or welcome soninlaw into his house permanently, sleep, eat and have sex, etc, with his daughter! I am positive that Amma's parents would not welcome such reverse cultural development? If, so, why would Amma suggest that Nigerian man change his name because she's previleged her spouse could careless of changing her name. Who's Amma's better-half, a Naija or an alien? Amma's example that's over-consume with the psycho-structure of western style behaviors and would prefer to import to Africa for a change. Amma's not looking at Africa cultural frame mindset as she wrote this article, but rather external mindsets due to her exposures.

Posted by Olatunji on Jun 16 2009

Haba @ Habu, you hit the nail on the head, infact, you broke the nail. Good point, let our writer's check what their write-ups before they corrupt the sane minds of our daughters!

Posted by Ehijie on Jun 16 2009

To Habu: Your post has deviated from the issue at hand. The Amma's article does not validate the idea that a man should come to a prospective inlaw's house, stay there, and have sex with his prospective inlaw's daughter. Amma's article solely questions the idea that a woman must answer her husband's name upon marriage. whether or not it is ethical for to have sex with you prospective bride in her father's house is a debate for another article. Another thing you must realize is that if culture is never static. Culture is subject to evolution. And there is nothing that says that the ways of our ancestors are sacrosanct. with every new generation comes new ideas. We must not be lost in the ways of long ago, but we should question the relevance of ideas. Our ancestors got their ideas from some preinterpretative assumptions. We should get ours. And that is exactly what i think Ama is doing.

Posted by Ify Uraih on Jun 16 2009

@ Segun. It is not about Amma being lucky. What she is not telling us is that it is all about branding. Let me explain. Amma Ogan is a brand some of us remember from the 80s, that was why it was easy for me to start reading her again because I have always enjoyed her writings. Imagine seeing Amma Olojede? To me that would be like Amma Who? She would have lost her essence. Please nobody should get deceived about this ownership of last names. Women that choose to keep their original names or make their future names double barrel like Amma Ogan-Olojede (for example) are mostly famous women who dont want to go through the troubles and uncertainties of rebranding. P/S. One question for Amma - In those countries where polyandry is practised, which husband's name does the woman answer? The first or the second or the third? And what about the men they marry? Do they answer Mr. The-Woman's surname? their father's name? or what? And the children that result? What will be their surname or names?

Posted by Kubayashi on Jun 16 2009

@ Amma: 'ile lati n'ko esho rode', a yoruba saying 'charity begins @ home'..let me ask (without being offensive pls), what name does Amma's mother answer to? Going by the cultures you used in arriving at your conclusions, I bet the next time you write about a male chaunistic world, you will mention countries like USA, Britain etc as your refference points. However, in these countries, despite their free nature attitude, a very majority (and PROBABLY as recognisable by law) goes by the name of their husbands. Anyway, my Lady, I'm sure that majority of Nigerian girls dont mind taking on the name of their husbands... I think its fun.

Posted by sylvia on Jun 16 2009

@Olatunji: The corruption of the "sane mind" of your daughter by Amma should be the least of your problems. I suggest you watch out for big belle men in agbadas, male friends, relatives, acquintances, drivers, houseboys,etc etc. In fact, anybody with a penis should be considered an enemy. Also, ban all movies, books and any other sort of entertainment that might "corrupt" that beautiful sane mind of hers. Don't forget to marry her off a virgin when the time comes and be sure she understands how to worship her husband, all day, everyday. You see, you have so much work to do. Don't let Amma distract you from your mission of preserving the sane minds of women.

Posted by akaBagucci on Jun 16 2009

I think it should be one of those things left for both people in the marriage to decide.. I would disagree with the allusions to the name chnage being explicitly Christian -- perhaps its Western, 'cos no where have I read in the bible that a woman should change her name when she gets married.. If we want to take the "one-flesh" injuction quite literally, perhaps the Hispanic culture of compounding both surnames is the best fit?

Posted by Ehijie on Jun 16 2009

@ Olatunju: You who speak of a sane mind, i strongly believe that you have corrupted the minds of other people's daughters at some point in your life, or maybe you still do. You see, its a cycle, some daughters have to play their part.

Posted by rapheal on Jun 16 2009

i think the writter just wants to create controverse if it is her opinion to still carry on her father name then she shiuldnt corrupt others mind. only God knows who wears the trouser in her home now

Posted by Baruwa Afolabi on Jun 16 2009

We should appreciate the issue at hand,its actual one of the MDG's "GENDER EQUALITY", but between you and i with all due respect, women folks will go for anything that sounds nice. Even an ex-hubby name, sis i lie

Posted by disappointed lady on Jun 16 2009

Dear Habu, although you gentlemen don't like to admit it, MANY MEN, do end up living with their in-laws or at their in-laws largesse after marriage. How many do you know whose in-laws, either the mother in-law or father in-law provide the house or the money to pay rent. Many of my friends are the breadwinners in their husband's houses including paying the rent and the school fees. Abeg!

Posted by Job Orjioke on Jun 16 2009

My mother still referred to my father as "Nna anyi ukwu" (meaning "our great lord" or "our great father" until my father died andshe was proud to do so. I remember my mother chiding my wife (immediately after we got married) for calling me by my first name. When my wife now chose to call me "Nna anyi ukwu", I was so livid that I walked away and later told her never to do that again. Many Igbo wives of my mother's generation and even many today are proud to be called "Oyiri di ya" (she aho resembles her husband)or "Aru di ya" (flesh of her husband's flesh) or "Uso di ya"(the love of her husband's life). These women saw these names as titles denoting affection and ownership at a time when men could have more than one wife! In fact the inimitable Michael Iheonukara Okpara, Zik's erstwhile accolade once referred to his wife in public as "Oyiri di ya" and she proudly acknowledged him with a smile in an open NPN rally that was televised in Enugu. I beleive that Ama, having spent almost 2 decades in New York and coming back , a transformed woman, is struggling to accept a culture she once grew up in. She has thus, intentionally kicked the ball of this discussion into space and is using the responses from members of the public to gauge the mood of Nigerian men and women. I would, in conclusion say that some of Ama's argument has some merits while others sound like recycled lines from the doctrines of America's women's lib movements that have wrecked many marriages in the States. Ama's arguments will be hard to sell to a Nigerian audience still steeped in a male-driven culture. As a matter of fact, some of her greatest opponents will be women like her who may feel disrespected and unaccepted by their husbands' families if they hang on to their maiden names and or if they choose to create a new hyphenated name. Well done Ama. I am sure that you are now realizing how much of a great guy your man is. Many Nigerian, nay African men would not let you get away with retaining your maiden name and still stay married to them!

Posted by on Jun 16 2009

I wonder at the comments of Olatunji... I wonder what part of a woman seeking to keep her own name borders on being pround and egoistic. I shudder at the thought of my character being judged merely 'cos i chose to retain the name i am used to. For women who have attained greatness and some measure of recognition before they are married, it is indeed a great inconvenience to have their names changed. Case in point an article written my Lola Shoneyin! Writers and actresses have to have a form of identity by which their fans, audience, readers relate to them and they need to stay with the identity instead of flitting in from one name to the other. Also it is very inconvenient to jump the hoops required by law when u want to change your na,e. Case in point being the issue of dividend warrants and certifications!! Its one messy business visiting registrar's departments. In conclusion, I believe that it's a woman's perogative if she wants to change her surname to that of her husbands. I do not beleive a man should be the determining factor. Surely it doesnt make me less married to you that i am Eknoreda Owiat when U married me and I am still called that.. If u have a toyota corrola and u paint it red and buy alloy wheels, does it stop being a toyota corrola?? I do not think so. Also, some "orimogunje's" are not as nice looking on paper and as nice sounding as they role of the tongue as some "Taylor's", "taiwo's" et all

Posted by Osu Akande on Jun 16 2009

I love your name and like some one said it is brand like that of funmi iyanda, Late May Ellen Ezekiel, Grace Egbaghe and others but you analysis thoroughly defeat your stand our culture is our culture. If not why dont you drop your maiden name and start bearing your middle name or have children bearing your maiden name instead of their fathers after all the name is from a man, in other to be a true feminist you do not need to tear manhood down.

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 16 2009

@Habu and Olatunji: Riiiiight, so both of you are railing against the importation of Western cultures to corrupt the sane minds of our daughters.... Do either of you realise that changing your name after you get married is a COMPLETELY WESTERN culture? There is NO NIGERIAN CULTURE in which a woman gets married and changes her name to her husband's name. There is NONE. Therefore, since we are getting rid of harmful Western cultures here, it is my opinion that this be the first one we scrap. I'm not changing my name. I was not born with my husband attached to my hip. Just as he is an individual allowed to make a name for himself in this world, I too am an individual that wants to make a name for myself in this world and that name I make will be MY name.

Posted by habu on Jun 16 2009

Thank you Olatunji, you understood my ponits here, while Ahijie did not. Ehijie, kindly revisit my response to Amma's writeup again, or since you did not fully understood my culture in reverse. Let stick with Amma's arguments with my questions to you or Amma can help here: [1] if I change or adapt my spouse last name, who's going to be the head of household? [2] can my wife be reverse to be my husband and or can I become the wife? [3] where are we going to live, in my extended family compound or hers? [4] if we decide to live in the now my husband parent compound, who's responsible for the daily bread? [5] Is it going to be 50/50 like being practice in the western world which Amma's advocating for, and or will write if she win the battle for a reverse trend for African men to adapt to their spouse last name? Remember this argument must not be borrowed from other cultures. This is an African argument Amma's attempting to borrow from outside Africa.

Posted by on Jun 16 2009

@disappointed lady: o'really? what part of naija's that happening? Personally, how can I allow my inlaws take care of me and their daughter. Maybe you're refering to those naija men in the diaspora, married to citizens right? Because I've never come across one getting support from his inlaws in naija for house notes or utilization bills, etc. If you claimed that some men are getting support for their offspring school fees, that's pretty common. I am learning!

Posted by habu on Jun 16 2009

@Sugabelly: Qoute; Do either of you [Habu & Olatunji] realise that changing your name after you get married is a COMPLETELY WESTERN culture? There is NO NIGERIAN CULTURE in which a woman gets married and changes her name to her husband's name. There is NONE. So is WESTERN CULTURE? Are you sure of the arguments? Where can I find literatures to back you claimed? My thoughts stand until I research further...

Posted by Eba on Jun 17 2009

Hello all, As the unelected president of the people's parliament I want to put this to the vote so that we can draft a motion for the House and the Senate. Please send for all your friends and family members who have not expressed their opinion to come quickly and vote. So all of you for the motion that a woman is free to do as she pleases with her "SORE" name should say Eyes and all who are against this eMotion should say nail Ok can the Chief count how many are for and how many are against. Till next week when Amma Marks another motion lets go and re-build marriages where ever they need MENDing

Posted by Tamedu on Jun 17 2009

Here we go... looking to literature(s) to back up a claim. That might work in Europe but our African societies became literate barely 200 years ago. And by the way, how is the canon made?

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 17 2009

@habu: Actually there IS documented evidence. Please read The Anthropological Report on the Ibo-Speaking Peoples of Nigeria (volumes 1 to 6) dated 1895 to 1913. That at least proves that it is NOT an Igbo custom and I seriously doubt that it is a custom that originated ANYWHERE in Nigeria.

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 17 2009

@Job: Please! Igbo people are some of the most brainwashed people in Nigeria when it comes to Eurocentric culture. It is NOT our culture thank you very much. Igbo people in particular have been at the forefront of hastily adopting any Western cultures that allow men to exert power over women. Afterall BEFORE missionaries and colonisation it was the WOMEN that were the breadwinners of the family with their markets and their trade. What did the men do? So they grew a couple of big yams and took chieftancy titles, so what? It was the WOMEN that were the economic backbone of any Igbo society! But when the missionaries came they brought their stupid ideas about female submission to males and the Igbo men just lapped it up like honey and immediately set about enforcing it and have been attempting to do so for decades. In turn, a lot of Igbo women have learned to be irritatingly servile and self-sacrificing. Calling your husband Nna Anyi Ukwu? Is he a god? Why doesn't he equally call you Nne Anyi Ukwu in that case? Abegi jo! This name-changing nonsense is not and has never been our culture. Nigerians very quickly adapted so many customs from Westerners that allowed them to subjugate women unfairly. Imagine, some men actually expect their wives to sit at home and be housewives when in traditional Igbo society it is the WOMAN that brought the bacon home. And the silly thing is, they will then try to claim that it is our culture. There are SO MANY things that we do on a daily basis in Nigeria that are NOT our culture, and likewise there are so many things that we deny on a daily basis in Nigeria that ARE our culture. We need to be HONEST about these things. Changing our names is NOT our culture, partial nudity IS a big part. Ancestor worship IS our culture, one monolithic God isn't ... yet we have adopted it. Nobody is saying that we should all automatically revert to what is our culture, but there is a desperate need to be HONEST about what IS and what ISN'T. Just because a Western culture favours you as a man does not mean that you should then claim that it has always been our culture in order to justify your attempt to gain an UNFAIR advantage over women.

Posted by habu on Jun 18 2009

To: Sugabelly, thank you for the reference literature. I'll definately devote time for the materials. Very educating!

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 18 2009

@habu: Let me add that there is also a similar report on the Bini Kingdom/Edo people by the same anthropologist who I must say did a very thorough job recording even the most minute details of the customs of the people.

Posted by Ehijie on Jun 18 2009

@Sugarbelly: I would love to be your husand. We would be on very equal terms in that house. In fact you are going to work as much as you please, bring the bacon home, and let us flex. Why would any guy be complaining about that kinda set up. If a woman works then more money for da crib

Posted by Naija Princess on Jun 18 2009

What a great article! All this great thinking came out of this? Shallow me just read it and thought "hmm what a cool idea to keep my maiden name. Great thing I read this before getting married"

Posted by Dele Olojede on Jun 18 2009

Amma and i, dear reader, were still arguing over this very same name business all the way to the marriage registry in new york city that late november afternoon in 1991. in fact, when we got to the registrar and the matter had not yet been resolved, we stormed out, leaving a perplexed city official staring out us in head-shaking wonder. of course, as a true blood modakeke man, raised in the spirit of careful navigation, i made a historic compromise and invited her to a roadside cafe to cool off, after which we agreed to go back to the registrar under these conditions: amma's official documents, such as the marriage certificate, will bear Amma Ogan-Olojede, but in her profession life she would continue to be known as amma ogan. so what happened? i promptly got used to her being called amma ogan, and i address her as such, and it was never an issue i cared about again. as for the Ogans, whenever they write to us, it always is to Mrs Amma Olojede! Go figure.

Posted by Eknoreda on Jun 18 2009

Ok Every one. I think what Dele has just told us is enough to bank the tempers that have been stirred. It is indeed about compromise and what the couple has decided between themselves. Culture or not, it is actually about what two people.. in the marriage care about.

Posted by Eba on Jun 18 2009

I tell you Dele and Amma are ready to change the face of Journalism ooooo, I have never seen or read dis kin thing before. Now that you have used your private lives as a case study for transparency and Account-Ability, I guess you are free to ask the rest of society to do same. Tell us those uncomfortable aspects of your lives. Hmmm what a couple. See what new journalism will bring to our lives. Oga patapata of NEXT even has the time to comment and join we the Army of readers (or is that Amma of Readers?). I tell you Nigeria go better. D.O go on with changing Nigeria. How I wish you were Dele Ogan and she Amma Dele (AD) so we can have DOAD...but now we have DOAO...Dele Olojede, Amma Ogan. So ladies and gentlemen what have you not learned in this article and the reactions? It has touched on all aspects of our lives from culture to the spiritual, to the historical and now the social. I vote this story the BEST and Madam Amma Ogan-Dele Olojede the NEXT commentator of the Week!! Any one in this parliament to second my eMotion?

Posted by Emeka U. on Jun 19 2009

There are somethings that are done that are in law but are conventonal. What's wrong in a woman changing her name when she gets married. She has nothing to lose, so i don't any problem with. My wife must follow suit.

Posted by Harry on Jun 19 2009

This is vintage Amma...More power to your elbow.

Posted by Nnamdi on Jun 19 2009

Dele, u r one courageous guy.On d broader issue expressed in Amma's article, nothing has changed. D caption of that article is ‘Of Marriage and Ownership’ I am reading some persons in d house still saying name change in marriage is ownership. How does name change depict ownership(oppressive? – pls refer to my previous post)). Pls relate to other African cultural practices - documented or undocumented. Is prostration submissiveness, is standing up for elders stupidity,is d worship of Ifa, Ogun or agbara archaic, is d woman as the anchor of d home baseless. Where does it stop? If the caption were ‘NAME CHANGE IN MARRIAGE - A REFLECTION OF TRUE LOVE? Would d argument have been diff? How come ppl don't see d love in name change but see d oppression & ownership in it? What I read here is an interpretation of name change in marriage as mitigating the progress, independence or importance of d african woman. I hv a serious problem with that insinuation – knowing d African woman. Foreign culture is like rich cognac, it catches u unawares then blurrs ur vision and is no good for u. Name change in d african culture can also be seen as reflection of love.

Posted by Jeremy Weate on Jun 19 2009

Emeka - the problem for a woman losing her name is simple: she loses her identity. Her name disappears from the world and old friends will not be able to find her. It is a Christian-western import that should be questioned, and in my opinion, rejected in Nigeria. In an enlightened world, no married woman should consider herself to be her husband's property..

Posted by Ify Uraih on Jun 19 2009

Thank you Dele for bringing this interesting discuss to a happy ending. In truth I almost guessed that was what happened. My first boss was a no-nonsense lady (She also wore a low-cut), who was Miss Her-Surname at work where she was a highly professional, knowledgeable and excellent coach At home and within her social circle and in the church she was Mrs Her-Husband's name and was a loving mother and wife to her children and husband. So guys, you see one woman can have the best of two worlds - eat her cake and at the same time have it.

Posted by pam on Jun 20 2009

wow. satisfying read. I heart Ama & Dele for such mutual respect. this "our culture" blanket will never end. theres a group amnesia/selective appropriation thats painful to see. Victorian values and religious attitudes still hold sway in 2009 Naija. Lord Luggard would be proud.

Posted by Ossai on Jun 20 2009

The husband has said it all. Her marriage documents bear the husband name (western culture), Professional document bears her name (naija culture) and they are living happily. Case close...

Posted by Eba on Jun 20 2009

@Ify you wrote "eat her cake and at the same time have it." That is a fax document, when you send the original and still have the copy? I like the theory of multiple and inter-changeable identity you introduced. Even Marxists encourage you to be one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon and at night in the private sphere manifest as something else. The problem with multiple identities is that you have to keep track and make sure you do not cross the identity line. Peace as we go on to be the WHO we want to be starting with name choices

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 20 2009

@Ify and Eba: Why should THE WOMAN be the one that has to deal with the hassle of multiple identities? Do you know how many legal and documentation problems that could cause for her? What you're suggesting is not any different from having her outright change her name. As long as she's answering her husband's name at ANY point, there is a serious problem because THAT woman has to juggle two identities while the MAN does not. Why can't everyone be happy to just continue being WHO THEY ALREADY ARE????? That idea is sexist. The man should be also required to go by two identities. This name changing business is nothing but stroking the egos of men. Women DO NOT BELONG to men so we should not have to take on their name as though we were some type of household pet. If you're suggesting that the woman should be known by her own name in the professional world and by her husband's name everywhere else (wow doesn't she deserve to preserve her identity too???) then I am equally suggesting that men MUST be known by their own names in the professional world and by their WIVE'S name everywhere else. No man would EVER think of eroding his identity for you, no matter how much he professes to love you. How DARE he demand that I erode MY identity for HIM in the name of love? Does he think that I am somehow less of a human being than he is and is that why he would deny me my legacy? Who doesn't want future generations to tell great stories about them? Who doesn't want to persist in the future generations long after we are dead? Why are we giving history the eraser to erase us into oblivion? Every HUMAN is EQUAL and has an EQUAL right to its OWN IDENTITY. That's my stand. None of this "take my name" rubbish for me.

Posted by Eba on Jun 21 2009

@Sugarbelly...you sweet my belle ooo, I hope you know that with your position also comes real partnership. You better be ready to be a 50% 50% breadwinner or else you cannot eat your cake and have it o. What Amma did not tell us is that she got married as a fully formed character. She was not thinking about who she is or who she wants to be. We are talking about the former editor of the Guardian on Sunday who went with Agbakoba to do a story on Ita Oko and many more dangerous assignments. If you knew her as Miss Amma Ogan when I knew her you will understand what I mean. I thought I saved this point for the very last. Sugarbelly you are welcome to the fold of assertive women. Just know that it is not just a surface act. These are women who know themselves are are not seeking any validation from any man. If you are still in search of self please take the brand-name of a man who can serve you...ok? I am outta here. It is has been a pleasure been with you all. I tell you Nigeria has right thinking folks but who will always remain at the margin of society. Ok let us go read this week offering on men and models. Those sexy UFOs...haaaaa unattached Female Objects (of desire)

Posted by Don Onyeka on Jun 22 2009

Mrs Amah Amah, I believe that should have been the right name for Amah Ogan. You know, so that we will know that she fell from heaven.

Posted by Standtall-The Activist on Jun 22 2009

Will like you to read this post: http://genderandme.blogspot.com/search/label/Compound%20Name and this http://shotmusinz.blogspot.com/2009/06/dis-mrs-tin-sef_16.html. Those posts were written by 2 different women on the issue of name change. I really feel I need to do a research on women taking up their husbands' name and why that is considered to be ownership and where this kind of idea originated from. And now i have a better perspective reading this post. A former colleague of mine had her husband insisted she change her email address to hsi name after marriage because is she no longer in that family she was born into (WTF!). I really wonder why she didn't stamp her feet and keep the email address. Another advert I saw was of a man being very excited that thw woman will soon drop hr father's name and take his (WTF!). This practice is another reason why girl-child is less valuable to some culture in Nigeria because she is going to changer her name and will not keep the family name. (Na wa o). I do not drop my surname and I have being married for almost 2 yr and I dont have any intention of doing so cus this is me and my marriage shdn't change that. A Los Angeles man change his name to his wife father's and some nigerians were not pleased by this. What is it to feeling a woman has to change her name for a man? As if it means the world will cease. It point to the fact that some joy and satisfaction is derived from this. @ Ade: it does nto matter how Amma came b her name but that's her name period. And what I can add is that it does not matter who changes the name but the way it has being conditioned it has to be the woman! This is so wrong! Children shd have choice whether to take thier father's or mother's name! Nnamdi: I dont think you are so educated on the issue of culture. You may need to sutdy further... @ Eba: I am sure you know that Sugarbelly is an independent woman.

Posted by Ajibola Amzat on Jun 22 2009

My wife bears my name. Period!Maybe it's ego, so? As far as i am concerned, it has a feel good-effect. And I dont think it will hurt her anyway. it never did. So, what 's the fuss?

Posted by Eba on Jun 22 2009

@Standtall-The Activist na you biko. I thought I was outta here till you pulled my lips or is it fingers with "I am sure you know that Sugarbelly is an independent woman" What does it mean for any HUMAN being to be independent. I tell you when boredom comes you will feel the dent and go out to seek company. How I wish Ms Amma will re-visit and say something to all what we have taken time to think about or is that part of her independence too!!! The feedback mechanism is a new journalism tool, the idea to my mind is to create a writer-reader repartee that deepens the closeness of the print medium. As it is said not what is written but how it is interpreted. Does the number of comments tell NEXT what we the FRA (Free readers Association) want from them? Does any one know the period when women owned men and just used them for baby making? To be candid with you, of what use is a man in the world? They are the ones who go to war, they are the ones who hurt women in love..marriage should not be a carriage owned by Horse-Bands......laugh if you can. Husbands (ok some of them) are like Horses good only for riders with guts

Posted by Job Orjioke on Jun 22 2009

You know, it is easy to surmise a people's culture by analysing their songs, words, parables, poetry etc. I will try and take that approach to help us understand that Igbo culture (which is the one that I can authoritatively comment on) establishes the husband as the leader in the home without putting down the wife. In Igbo language, a husband is called "DI" which is different from "NWOKE " meaning "MAN". A man can be a "nwoke" without necessarily being a "DI". "DI" in the traditional setting is title earned when you are old and responsible enough to start your own home, father your own children, take care of your wife and provide them with direction and leadership. A "DI" traditionally, is thus the head of his home...a leader...a husband. The Igbos have even gone ahead and stretched the meaning of "DI". So in Igboland, when a man is a top/ chief hunter, Igbo people call him "DI-NTA" meaning one who is a husband of hunting or the head of hunting. This is different from "UDE-NTA" meaning "one who is famous for hunting." You can be famous without being a chief /ruling prince in an area. When a man is a top wrester, like Amalinze the cat in Achebe's THINGS FALL APART, he is called DI-MGBA; MGBA means wrestling. When a man is a top fighter or warrior like Okonkwo who led Umuofia in war, he is called DIKE or DIOGU; Meaning CHIEF FIGHER OR WARRIOR. This title is different from "UDE-OGU" meaning "one who derives his fame from war". You can stretch the concept of "DI" to cover any area of enterprise within the traditional society in those days. What I am trying to convey here is that the husband has always been regarded as the leader in a home in Igbo culture and this never took anything away from the wife. Fathers are still proud to name their daughters "NNE-KA" meaning " A MOTHER IS SUPERIOR". I am puzzled as to why some people are trying to distort culture and history. It is a different thing if we say that certain aspects of our culture are not keeping up with the times and need to be changed. But let us not distort a truth that lives in our songs, music, parables, poetry and daily expressions....a truth that daily speaks to us from antiquity

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 23 2009

@Job: That whole analysis makes no sense. There is nothing in Igbo culture that even suggests that women took on their husbands' names upon marriage. Also I am not sure why you are trying to ignore the fact that in traditional Igbo society women were the BREADWINNERS. There is no excusing, ignoring, or dismissing that fact. Men might have beat their chests and made a lot of loud noise but if the Women didn't go to market, the family couldn't survive. Also, I am not sure what you are trying to imply by claiming that we are ignoring our culture in this issue. If you want to talk about ignoring culture I promise you I am more than ready. Afterall in traditional Igbo society married women had lovers in addition to their husbands and it was considered VERY ACCEPTABLE as long as the woman did not neglect her husband in the process. Also in traditional Igbo society, women went about bare-breasted and unmarried girls went about naked. This was considered very acceptable and even highly recommended since our cloth was considered a sign of maturity and only those who were married, past a certain age, or had achieved some sort of leadership in their age grades would wear clothes as a sign of their elevated status. In traditional Igbo society young girls start taking lovers from the age of thirteen. Young men were traditionally required to have fourteen love affairs before finally marrying. There are a million and one things that are pure Igbo culture that I could cite (AND PROVE) for you that we have completely ignored in Nigerian life today. Changing names is NOT an Igbo culture. I may not be able to speak for the rest of Nigeria, but I can say that it is not Igbo culture. Most of the misogynistic behaviours that Igbos and by extension Nigerians exhibit today were directly inherited from the Missionaries and the Colonists. Do not get your culture confused with what has been spoonfed you since you were born. We have been conditioned to believe a lot of things about ourselves that are highly inaccurate and because our parents and their parents were conditioned, we too have been conditioned, and those of us that remain conditioned will probably condition our own children to believe the same crap. It is our responsibility to actively seek out the truth about ourselves and our culture rather than continue to propagate chauvinistic habits simply because you belong to the benefiting group.

Posted by Standtall-The Activist on Jun 23 2009

@ Eba: lol at of ", what use is the man in the world", don't we need each other positively and to co-exist? I said Sugarbelly is an independent woman as a response to your question of her gettng to be 50-50 breadwinner. So, I am trying to tell you she is capable as she is an independent woman that will not find that abig deal.

Posted by Job Orjioke on Jun 23 2009

Hey Sugar Belly, hear your words verbatim "Afterall in traditional Igbo society married women had lovers in addition to their husbands and it was considered VERY ACCEPTABLE as long as the woman did not neglect her husband in the process..................." "In traditional Igbo society young girls start taking lovers from the age of thirteen. Young men were traditionally required to have fourteen love affairs before finally marrying...." I am honestly not sure if I want to continue with this discourse any more. I appreciate the things I have learnt from the many other contributors that chipped in their bit but I think it is time for me to move on. Thanks all!

Posted by Eba on Jun 23 2009

Hello, What we are saying....let Amma speak!!! Can she not give us the great pleasure and write something? Anything like ok I read you all. Thank you and case closed. I still insist that our emerging public sphere cannot be a one-way traffic. Readers want to interact with their opinion shapers (as in those who shape opinions) and better understand their minds. The era of hide and write are long gone. Letters to the editor will not serve this screenagers. @Standtall...I guess Sugarbelly can speak for herself ooo. I went to those blog site you recommended. So she designs. Wow!

Posted by on Jun 23 2009

@ Jeremy and others. Stop making choices for people. If I want to bear my father's name, fine. If I want to bear my name, fine. Nothing like - kicked off Nigeria - cos that way, you will be treading on the rights of those who wish to bear their husband's name. It is a choice world people! Live and Let's Live!

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 24 2009

@Job: So the impression I get is that you are running from information I have presented you with that makes you extremely uncomfortable because it threatens your idea of masculinity. The idea that Igbo women were once sexually liberated has you running for the hills. Well sorry but there is valid PROOF that this is our culture, yet it's something that most of us have completely abandoned... because of course as we all know - only men should have sexual freedom. But I disgress. The point is, you cannot insist that women should give up our identities for the sake of men by claiming that it is our culture because: A- It is NOT our culture, and B - Even if it were, there are LOADS of our customs that we don't practice anymore (like Female Genital Mutilation for instance) so what justification do Igbo (and by extension Nigerian) men have for attempting to morally and psychologically impose this ridiculous practice on women? None. NONE WHATSOEVER except for the fact that the men picked and chose what Western practices they would adopt because those practices FAVOURED them. No woman should be forced to give up her identity. Women are FULL human beings and EQUALLY deserve to ensure the preservation of their legacy. Not only will I NOT be taking my husbands name, but my children will bear BOTH my surname and his in a double-barrel hyphenated surname. THAT is one of my preconditions for marriage.

Posted by Standtall-The Activist on Jun 24 2009

@ Eba, ok o, since you want Sugarbelly to speak for herself no p. Who designs?

Posted by on Jun 24 2009

@Standtall-The Activist Who designs? Na Sugarbelly ooo You never visit her blog? You go see bera bera designs Ok, thank you very much for allowing me come on to your screen with going through the gates, doors and all lock-ables. That is why I am married to this computer. No complain no ownership wahala. Till next time I come ya screen again this is your screen doctor saying buy gaari

Posted by John Odenigbo on Jun 24 2009

It is obvious that Sugarbelly is either not Igbo or hates the fact that she is. It is troubling reading the drivel that she spews forth here and passes off as Igbo culture and worldview. It is troubling, and actually devalues the discussion that is going on. I share Orjioke's disappointment completely.

Posted by Sugabelly on Jun 24 2009

@John: Why don't you simply ask me for proof before dismissing what I say as drivel? People like you are far more hateful of the fact that you are Igbo than I am otherwise you would have taken the time to actually do research on your culture. But you are probably one of those Igbos that is Igbo in name only (I can't even call you that. Your first name is, afterall, JOHN). Either way, what I said WAS valid to the article since most of the people against Amma here are protesting on the basis of culture. If you want proof, I will give you proof, but if you're not willing to ask for and receive evidence that what I say is true, then please do not disparage my statements. Thank you.

Posted by Mickey Moye on Jun 25 2009

When i was a teenager i changed my name from Ogunsona to Moye. I have no intention of doing away with MY NAME just because I'm married

Posted by Demilade Omisore on Jun 28 2009

hahahah this is frikin amazing. Sugabelly thumbs up babe. I cant believe ur my age.

Posted by Dayo on Jun 30 2009

It is really sad to read the amount of hate, ignorance and just plain ol' stupidity exhibited by the some of the posts (mostly men, YES I SAID IT!) here. So, what's in a name? I intend to keep my last name when I get married and NO ONE, I REPEAT, NO ONE has the right to get on a pretentious moral high-horse and tell me what I can or canno do with my husband's last name. Ladies, WE ARE THE PRIZE TO BE WON! not the other way around. Men should be grateful that we women choose to grace their homes with our presence...pssshheeeew!! This is why Naija is still not progressing..ignorant, chauvinistic and silly actions, thinly disguised as "culture" that we continue to perpetuate is holding us back. Why should my name disappear simply because I choose to marry? Darn it, I'll name all my kids all forms of "Dayo" if I want to..afterall no be carry pikin for 9 months? Thank you to the author of this article! She is obviously more enlightened than a whole of the ignorant people who rant that she had the nerve to write this.

Posted by Ejeagba on Jun 30 2009

I still can not see anything wrong with my wife bearing my name. I believe is a mark of love & respect... But if you agree with your husband to keep your father's name, that ok for you both.

Posted by Femi Sunmonu on Jul 02 2009

Today it should all boil down to choice. I know who I am married and throughly committed to and I believe she also understands that our relationship is a marriage and is a commitment beyond rings, name changing and other such things. For a while after we got marriage (we are both Muslims) and she moved up north to where I was based, she continued to use her maiden name - which was fine by me until she buckled under the glares and looks of saying she was married to me but her complimentary card bore another name ( English name for that matter!). When our first child came along, she filed her NPC records with my names combined as the surname which she subsequently adopted but drops when she wants to be mischievous. Like I started we know who is married to who.

Posted by Eba on Jul 03 2009

WANTED ...A woman who is looking for a man who does NOT care if you take his name or retain yours. Please if you are not self-assured like Amma, and really ready to work your way with me to the top please do not apply. Here are your benefits (1).Love till you want no more (2) I will cook for you only when you do not feel like eating (3) You will face your career squarely and become damn good at what you choose (4) You do not need to tell me your minute to minute movement (5) I will be there for you ...hey any takers? Write me at Iwillbeyourwife@eba.com

Posted by Udeme on Jul 04 2009

Na wahoooooo! Una well done.



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